COMPENSATION COMMISSION WASHTENAW COUNTY, MICHIGAN RES # 17-03 RESOLUTION TO DETERMINE SALARIES FOR TOWNSHIP PARKS COMMISSIONER September 28, 2017 At a Meeting ofthe Pittsfield Charter Township Compensation Commission, Washtenaw County, Michigan, held at the Township Administration Building located at 6201 W. Michigan don't forget too that all those (so-called, by quite a few on this board) damn lazy overpaid public employees are also taxpayers and consumers. Thank you Kristin for providing some context and information on how the county works. My mother is on that list and she works harder than anyone I know. That segment of wage earners is not an extreme anymore. who determines that and how? Large county average weekly wages. Christine Negendank, staff psychiatrist — $122,447, 21. The non-general fund budget and employees are paid for with Federal and State grants that we are the "pass-through" agency for. Marci Scalera, WCHO regional operations director — $103,921, 39. Fifty employees in Washtenaw County government have six-figure salaries, while another 100-plus are somewhere between $80,000 and $99,000, county records show. But all the salaries are ultimately paid by the taxpayers? Nothing. Psychiatrists, who make up most positions at the top of this list, make an average of $163,000/year. On January 9th, 2019, Katie Scott was sworn in as Washtenaw County Commissioner for District 9. And even some incidents that were downright wrong - and not easily fixed because of the difficulty that population has in advocating for itself. It exists to insure that the court's orders in these areas are followed so that children are protected. Can cuts be made across the board, of course. While there is usually something fishy going on in any sort of government budgeting (it's more a matter of "how much" than "if") I have to agree that this article does a totally ineffective job of providing the public with the information necessary for the public to spot the inevitable "inefficiencies". But, I digress...) If this is the most cost effective way to do this bravo. This is certainly a very interesting age we live in for media and information. I assume the WCHO, who seems to have somewhere around 20-21 of the top 50 does some good things. Leave it to Commissioner Judge to lay it all out so people understand. If I buy groceries, I'm supporting the Farmer's and all employee's that work at the grocery store. Wow, read all 90 of those comments... several interesting points. Washtenaw County Water Resources Commissioner's Office Yesterday at 7:05 AM Now Hiring - Seasonal Water Resources Assistant Under the supervisi ... on of a higher classified employee, conducts field inspections of construction sites at various locations throughout Washtenaw County to prevent soil erosion and sedimentation due to construction activity. Journalists at sites like AnnArbor.com generally do not make a lot of money. Tastes good. Most people commenting have no idea how hard these people work. Giving up those valued assets is difficult. The more hits the more money. Ann Arbor is ranked one of the safest cities in the United States, and people think that's possible without the people listed above. Martha Hashimoto, staff child psychiatrist — $168,588, 6. the "sworn enemy of the court" position is funded through another bucket and so it is not included on this list :-). Guaranteed these folks are feelin' no pain at the pump. Interesting line: This was your choice to work for the tax payer, it doesn't mean that we don't value your service, but everybody knows it comes down to money and the money isn't bad here. I don't think so. Quantitiative information, e.g. earn significantly less than the new superintendent of AAPS will earn. Most of the Sheriff Deputies are also not paid for by the county budget. I think THAT would be the real shocker. This article is inflammatory. "It seems to me that no one should be able to collect a pension until they reach retirement age and they stop working." We have approximately 650 non-general fund employees and that fund is about $100 million. Linda Edwards-Brown, juvenile center administrator — $101,528, 42. I suspect no one does. One being that I am reading in the comments about how much good they do because they serve the poor, the homeless, the mentally ill. And I agree that that is an honorable thing and I have seen much good done in that arena. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your California Privacy Rights (each updated 1/1/21). Take $100/week out of these folks pay and they may not immediately get that new iPad, do the same for a $50k & lower wage earner and choices will need to be made on food, gas, clothing, etc. So stop saying, those darn public employee's, who work for us! A number of psychiatrists who deliver mental health services to county residents through the Washtenaw Community Health Organization made the list of top earners. Nope. I think not so much -- if Sheriff's Deputies are willing to put their lives on the line for $48k, then someone who chooses to get a PhD and wants to enter the community service sector should expect to take longer to pay off that school debt as a sacrifice. Don't be a Donald Trump - the information is out there for you to read. If you don't know if it is true, then you should not speculate it as being likely. This is the most well-reasoned post on here. We are not able to cut the many 6-figure jobs listed above to change our deficit. Its 27 cities, villages and townships are home to about 354,000 citizens in … That generally means the reporters make less then $40,000 a year. I agree with some others who ask "what is the point of this article" and "where is the context?" So, 3.7% of County employees have six-figure salaries. I have to agree I am surprised at the number of psychiatrists on this list but I have greater concerns. The psychiatrists treat a large number of mentally ill adults and children, most on an outpatient basis. To whom are these staff psychiatrists providing needed services? If so, that's very reasonable pay for their time... "it is likely that these salaries are MERELY FOR SUPERVISING U-M RESIDENTS " Has anyone scrubbed the cost of delivering these services internally vs externally? So basically, paying government emoyees "the same" as private employees is actually paying them MORE than private emoyees because the govt employees are being paid in salary, benefits, and reduced risk whereas public employees in relative terms get only the salary and benefits. Reviews from Washtenaw County Road Commission employees about Washtenaw County Road Commission culture, salaries, benefits, work-life balance, management, job security, and more. Think about how local government provides services mandated by the state and federal governments? And while you're at it, I can think of about 51 people that deserve an apology. We live in a nation of privatized medical services. That fund is worth approximately $96 million and pays for approximately 650 additional employees. Psychiatric Services Administrator Emmmmmm Now, ten or eleven do the work of entire mental hospitals. It's not that I think these awesome people should be paid more (per #3) -- it's that these other people are making WAY more than they should just on the basis of merit alone. @julieswhimsy brought up an IMPORTANT POINT about all those psychiatrist salaries...and one that Ryan should follow up on with this report. Elected officials that have been there for years and let this happen. I went to school with that top-paid one. I see nothing in this article or on the county website that tells me that any such evaluation has been done. Maybe A2.com should take a hard look at what they really provide to our community. Nancy Wheeler (Francis), Probate Court judge — $139,919, 13. Ridiculous in these times. That's a LOT of psychiatrists!! I asked if we'll see an article on the top salaries at AA.com. Explore washtenaw county careers and find about washtenaw county salaries, jobs, companies and much more at Indeed. We are following our obligation to the federal and state governments to provide mandated services to the residents in the community. Verna McDaniel, county administrator — $155,000, 7. I have used many County services, some great, good, and bad. She has worked for the county for over 30 years earned a bachelors and two master degrees. those are not exorbitant salaries, and we do offer an incredible resource in Washtenaw County of a free health care program for the poor and disenfranchised which I would not like to see go. six figures are not a "big deal" today. This is just the latest in a recent series of annarbor.com stories that seem designed to generate anger at public employees and create scapegoats for the fiscal problems governments are experiencing. The Washtenaw County budget does not pay for road commission workers. Look at the years of education and experience needed for those jobs. Curtis Hedger, corporation counsel — $116,758, 29. I know that the antics of last fall demanding the payback of funds is not going to balance the county's general fund. 20-30 years ago many mental health services were provided at the state level - then the state pushed those costs off onto the counties. As a tax payer my concern is the "results" part is all too often difficult to measure. WCRC is responsible for maintaining a road system that is reasonably safe and convenient to the traveling public. How much does Washtenaw County Road Commission in the United States pay? ANN ARBOR, MI – Washtenaw County paid out more than $82.3 million to 1,400-plus county government workers last year. Gunn, D-Ann Arbor, proposed eliminating the $25 per diem payments they collect on top of their $15,500 salaries for attending meetings. I think the most balanced view I saw on this board was from William pointing out that being a public servant means sacrificing for the good of the community, putting yourself in service to your neighbors. That is a completely different budget. It is not our problem." As far as I'm concerned, every citizen pays for every working person's salary one way or another. 2. Back in the day everyone understood that, today not so much. But I do think that xmo and others could get that take away. Kristin - Under what's now proposed, county commissioners, who are part-time public servants, would have their pay set at 45 percent of the 2017 median salary of Washtenaw County residents, and the median salary was $60,125 last year. The county also picks up the tab for specialized services like SWAT, Marine, Mounted, etc. Public school bus drivers took the hit last year now the teachers get robbed this year and the school system as a whole gets reduced funding. What about retirement benefits? You want to report on something, do some research and suggest how the budget can be balanced. Oh Yes, fire a bunch of Sheriff Deputies and road commision workers. I the past government jobs meant stability and good benefits. Your article is very misleading. So the County salaries are not out of line with the private sector: http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291066.htm And they'll none of 'em be missed - they'll none of 'em be missed. But let us work with better data. Even the top Washtenaw County Administrators, judges, presecutors, medical directors, etc. Tons of great salary information on Indeed.com We understand that the money we spend comes from the taxpayers, and you have a right to understand how it is spent. How many county worker service jobs would that save? Judith Gentz, nurse practitioner — $100,000. With so many unemployed and underemployed highly talented people, the safety and security of cushy jobs should be challenged. He's got 'em on the list - he's got 'em on the list; Washtenaw County's logo on a podium inside the Board of Commissioners meeting room at the county building in downtown Ann Arbor. He works nearly non-stop and does not get to pick and choose his clients as he might be able to in private practice. Think next time you vote, do you want more of this or not? "It's frankly to give folks a chance to give more feedback and a chance to better understand the metrics we are using, and really just make sure that the input is big before we make any decision," County Board Chairman Andy LaBarre, D-Ann Arbor, said of the reason for postponement. might want to check the wikipedia. It's all relative. Ain't nobody gonna do nothing about it. Steven Hiller, deputy chief assistant prosecutor — $116,758, 30. The chicken coop door is open. It seems to me that no one should be able to collect a pension until they reach retirement age and they stop working. I am too believe Mr. Stanton has ulterior motives, going after one man in the fall for per diems when it was democrats and republicans alike that had the same issues. I guess the only surprise is how many psychiatrists the county has on the payroll. " yada, yada, yada ". "our obligation to the federal and state governments to provide mandated services to the residents in the community. Commissioner Conan Smith , D-Ann Arbor, makes $18,500 as chairman, while other commissioners with leadership roles make as much as $16,500. I do not have enough information. These people who make 6 figures can afford to take a pay cut. Subscribe now. We need something that speaks to cost-benefit, priority, and necessity of budget items (with funding source) in order to verify that low priority or unnecessary services are cut first and inefficient services are forced into becoming efficient. board of commissioners commissioner commissioners $24,858.08 general fund BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS $26,858.00 General Fund BUILDING INSPECTION PLUMBING MECHANICAL INSPT I II AFSCME 2733 B $46,240.22 Building Inspection maybe we would have lower prison rates, and less dual diagnosis, and a generally more successful population contributing to our tax base. I would say that's where we need to start cutting corners. And that care is not typically very, um, top-notch, shall we say, compared to seasoned professionals. and Kristin you said that the county does not have the ability to change the pay of the state/fed but are simply mandated to provide the services, does the state/fed dictate what the pay level is? Kristen thanks for presenting the TRUE FACTS! As budgets get tested, we'll see just who is deemed the most vital by the taxpaiyers and voters. Janis Bobrin, water resources commissioner — $101,528, 45. Considering that they are paying your salaries out of their taxes that pretty much makes it a wash. From curriculum at Scarlett Middle School the definition of success is doing well financially. Linda Brown, WCHO deputy administrator —$126,656, 17. Comparative case load or hours worked? I doubt they make much. From a cost standpoint police and fire make up the biggest dollar amount of the budge. It is particularly disturbing, when, in fact, most Community mental Health patients see only U of M resident Psychiatrists...who are only supervised by the staff Psychiatrists. Well, duh! i need a top 50 county job. If there are cost savings, then it would be sensible. To allude to cutting these top 50 salaries while not having knowledge of the intricacies of county budget, is poor reporting and for that matter research. On behalf of the Washtenaw County Board of Commissioners, please see the enclosed summary of the major items prepared for their consideration for the October 21 st and 22 nd meetings. According to a county memo, the last time there was a salary adjustment for commissioners was in 2013, and before that it had been 13 years, despite changes in the cost of living. They take the cut or get replaced. And yet, I happen to know about the work all those highly paid psychiatrists do and I have a pretty good idea of what their counterparts at U of M make by comparison. What is their specific role on the county payroll? Good Day. Or, for that matter, any of those at the high end of a pay scale that have come to believe they are entitled to their salaries, benefits, time off, light schedules, support staff, long lunches, etc. "working on the tax payer's dime" Clownfish - and turn a blind eye to the true extremes of poverty/wealth in this country. I am less impressed with county structural employees salaries. COVID-19: Vaccine news and outbreak updates. Please, please, please get similar data for AAPS admistrators. Unfortunately, county salaries are not that simple of a concept so we have been working on how to present the information in a way that shows an accurate picture of spending. the work he does is impressive. It seems this information would have been pretty easy to obtain prior to completing this article. Another piece to this puzzle is the benfits that aren't mentioned. Those who have learned to "work the system" can be replaced. Why put the burden on the whole city. just being in the middle is not free pass to blame anyone on the other sides for what you do or dont have. Not satisfying. 1) Ryan, I agree, you should have done more research on this and at least pointed out which jobs were county paid versus state/fed paid. Dan Dwyer, court administrator — $116,758, 25. The old Ann Arbor News is better than this. They are paid for by the contracting jurisdictions who use the service. I'm not sure what the point of this is, particularly the tone of how it's presented... but over time, we might need to stop jumping up and down in shock over the phrase "six figure salary." I'm not surprised that educated professionals are earning that much, even from government jobs. Heads and Unions. Do you enjoy working outdoors? Andrea Sidiropoulos, staff child psychiatrist — $175,021, 5. Many have need now, and these luxurious benefits are not sustainable. This list is interesting, but it's like buying only a small popcorn at the movies. Oh, it looks like on-the-record verification that all those psychiatrists are paid for direct patient-care, great! Perhaps there's an economist out there reading this who might be able to point us to a study quantifying the average dollar value of increased job security for public vs private. DennisP - Diana Torres-Burgos, medical director — $125,625, 20. So Northside - if these salaries are comparable to the private sector - let them go get jobs in the private sector. The voters in this county are nuts! Last night, the Washtenaw County Board of Commissioners unanimously approved three resolutions to create new positions in the Prosecutor’s and Sheriff’s Offices to promote equity and diversion. Agree with Andy but it also comes down to numbers. This article totally fails to make the necessary comparisons and instead does pretty much nothing but try to manipulate people through envy of those with higher incomes than them. Belinda LeBlanc, staff psychiatrist — $144,271, 12. Okay - just checking that I am reading this correctly - Find My Commissioner. Those who advocate for wealth sharing now need to participate and share their wealth. What does annarbor.com think these psychiatrists employed by the county should make? Wow...if true, the article was VERY poorly researched and misleading. For the record, it is not true. I think the answer is simple - its a salacious headline and they know we will read the story and make comments ... Editor's note: Alicia Ping's commissioner district has been corrected. However, I find it interesting. After I read Judge's post, I realized this article was meant to exploit people who have nothing to do with the county's general fund. You would think with that many we could solve all the angst in the county about various political issues. " Quote from Kristin Judge of Washtenaw County tells it all! The younger reporters probably make around $25, 000. Kelly Belknap, finance director — $110,000, 33. The $117,861 total cost of that is included in the county's 2019-22 budget, according to county officials. Welton Washington, staff psychiatrist — $147,878, 9. If we cut the top 50 by 1/2 the lowest paid Judith Gentz will still make $50.000 still enough to live on i think. I knew he'd be successful. Higher risk (such as significantly lower job security in private industry) must be offset by a higher reward (such as higher salary) in order to make accepting additional risk worthwhile. Odd that judges aren't nearer the top--you would think that would be a higher paid position than psychiatrists given that it is an instrumental position in county government and the 3d branch of our governmental system. The board chair and committee chairs make an extra $3,000 each, and the vice chair makes an extra $1,000. Simple things to do for longevity of the city and its workers. What do you think? Thank you, I couldn't think of how to phrase it. Here are the rates and number of commissioners per county: How many residents there are per district is another consideration, and the county's comparison shows the following: Note to readers: if you purchase something through one of our affiliate links we may earn a commission. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. Gregory Dill, sheriff's director of administrative operations — $101,174, 48. I think lorie is asking for info by job classification and some idea of the number and type of patients they see for the psychiatrists. How do the County salaries compare to those for comparable jobs in other institutions? Where a private industry average is about 17% of your wage, County employees have a benefit package of greater than 50%. Ann Arbor.com does this city a disservice by not providing comparative data (eg. Or why not work in the private sector where they could undoubtedly earn more? People choose to be shocked by this (i.e. Where is Ko-Ko when we need him? I'm just questioning why you wouldn't advocate for privatization. BTW, I'm not criticizing your idea. " 10? "1. It handles a variety of matters related to children of divorce - custody, parenting time and child support. Our mission is to provide for the health, safety and welfare of Washtenaw County citizens and the protection of surface water and the environment and to promote the long term environmental and economic sustainability of Washtenaw County by providing storm water management, flood control, development review and water quality programs In all reality, you are both right and both wrong at the same time. The non-general fund budget and employees are paid for with Federal and State grants that we are the "pass-through" agency for. We keep pooring sand in the bag with gaping hole in the bottom. What's wrong with advocating privatization of medical services? http://www.jobs-salary.com/michigan-psychiatrist-salary.htm Commissioner LaBarre was elected to the Washtenaw County Board of Commissioners effective January 1, 2013. An employees in this position performs a variety of activities designed to service, repair and maintain road commission vehicles and equipment. Mary Jo Callan, community development director — $100,600, 50. If these figures are being earned for significant amounts of direct care, I'd find them reasonable.
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